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| Topic Started: 31 Aug 2010, 16:37 (836 Views) | |
| Duck of Death | 31 Aug 2010, 16:37 Post #1 |
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Well I read plenty of stuff on here about MX but none of it is of any value really as its all overseas We are back to talking cok again I want to race locally again, when i first lived here we alaways went somewhere to race or practice mx almost every weekend. Time to go look for a new coconut track or something as the trail riders are very anti social and look after their own little groups = f%$&ing it for everyone. Airtime....stop talking bullshit and get the MX revival moving!! I need a track and some riders to dispense a whooping with the 150SX sword of MX! |
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| rookie | 31 Aug 2010, 20:38 Post #2 |
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airtime! time to ride!! too much oversea stuff!!! 
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| airtime | 31 Aug 2010, 20:43 Post #3 |
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yes,i do agree we need a another track locally. but is nusajaya still usable or not? don worry,i will get get something moving here locally as soon as possible.  have found a couple of locations with rookie and will start work on getting permission to use the land. but as always juz why is the local FMN/ASN not taking the lead on getting a place here locally??? what lessons have we learn from the "failed" tuas circuit ???? with all the other people previously talking abt dis and dat at the tuas circuit but all did not know even the difference between a motocross track and a supercross track....and yes,since i was the 1 dat pointed it out abt it being a supercross track and got slammed for it.....but after 2 months and nothing/changes was done 2 the tuas circuit,the "promoter" than started saying that tuas was a supercross track???? but no worries,off my butt i will be getting....and dis time round,i wanna see what the so called "people" dat care about the sport will say? cos with all their "bullshit" talk on the internet...the tuas circuit failed.... ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS juz in case any any internet racers need 2 know...posting about wanting 2 race online is way different than taking part in a race or doing the ground work for a race. and yes, work is i must...i juz hope the "force" is still strong with me n m able 2 battle the "dark side"  ( been watching too much star wars movies,have i been! )
Edited by airtime, 1 Sep 2010, 18:16.
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| Duck of Death | 1 Sep 2010, 09:29 Post #4 |
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Luke I am your father |
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| airtime | 1 Sep 2010, 10:46 Post #5 |
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so guess i m not the only 1 dat is a star wars fan! so have u gone over from the dark side? but about the over seas news,while its 1st 2 let the local riders know wats happening around the world. 2nd is also so they can see the difference between motocross,enduro,hare scrambles and trail/off road riding. it like helps to the riders in the various discipline updated on the direction the particular discipline is heading. like for example..there r now more jumps in a enduro special stage test than on a moto- cross track(with the exception of a few man made tracks on the MX1 circuit.) moto cross is heading back towards speed,elevation and corners with basic jumps like table tops,whoops,rhythm sections and rough tracks. but,still the question of the local FMN/ASN is not taking the lead on getting land use for off road moto- sports and their prevention(lack of fore- sight) in the "tuas" project still remains unanswered? as the off road/moto- cross riders learnt anything from the failure of the "tuas" project? 
Edited by airtime, 1 Sep 2010, 21:21.
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| rookie | 1 Sep 2010, 21:18 Post #6 |
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everyone just enjoy the sport while we can. just ride and no politic! motocross and politic dun mix.. 
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| bsriphet | 2 Sep 2010, 00:14 Post #7 |
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No offense rookie or anyone else with this post ok;  Tuas is gone so where to enjoy if you're into MX even if you're not a politician or a commercial expert? I agree with the death duck, the talk's got to stop and someone has to take the lead on actually doing something abt finding a piece of suitable land and making the right moves to make it suitable for MX. As an example I brought my bike into the new Eastside trail for the first time on Sep 10 last year (yup got it recorded with GPS). After having walked around the place earlier together with two buddies equipped with parangs we could tie together 1.8km at the time and it was pretty boring from a trail ride point but still a local ride. Today a year later we have 6km of technically challenging trail and an amazing workout. It's only there because a very small group of people wanted the same thing and invested their precious spare time to make it happen. Political mess is created by people and so is great riding places so think again, do you wanna be a politician or one that makes a difference. I've made my choice a long time ago and I'll happily eat humble pie and say sorry if I pooped but I won't ask anyone or their aunties for permission in the name of political correctness.. If I did I'd still be waiting for reply and the east side trail would be nothing but a forgotten forest with nice birds and some camping immigrants on self-issued visit passes..
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| rookie | 2 Sep 2010, 09:51 Post #8 |
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great post Ben, no worry, i'm not offended. It is just that, i would very much want to find a plot of land here, and to get the permit to convert it into a mx track, but i'm neither rich nor any big shot. What can i do if i just approach the relevant authority? Will they entertain me? I'm just a nobody. Wouldn't somebody from smsa in a better position to negotiate this? Thus, instead of complaining about no track locally, i just rather keep my mouth shut and enoy the ride as and when i can. Have a good day mate. Edited by rookie, 2 Sep 2010, 09:53.
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| airtime | 2 Sep 2010, 10:05 Post #9 |
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i understand where u r coming from,bsriphet... yes,juz as most trails use it while u can kind of mentality seems to work. but with a motocross track its kinda different,as T.O.P is needed so if any earth works is done(which is needed) u won't run  with the law. otherwise some"nice chap in a uniform" might slap a summon down on us for illegal dumping or stealing soil from state land. yup,if Mssc were to take the lead in dis project.would the FMN/ASN support us or give us crap? dats the million dollar question????
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| airtime | 2 Sep 2010, 10:26 Post #10 |
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well said,rookie.... yup! this is the race calendar of the FMN/ASN. http://www.smsa.org.sg/calendar/SMSA%20Calendar%202010_Motorcycles_Updated%20Mar%202010.pdf the VICE PRESIDENT for motorcycles is Mr. Peter Tan as listed on the SMSA website. if there are any riders that need to noe what plans there is for motocross,perhaps the best thing would be 2 contact the FMN directly. (since there is nothing listed on their site with regards to off road events/sports like motard/moto cross/enduro) the FMN contact details are as follows; SINGAPORE MOTOR SPORTS ASSOCIATION 20 Maxwell Road, #10-18 Maxwell House Singapore 069113 TEL: (65) 62277889 • FAX: (65) 62270911 • EMAIL: smsa@pacific.net.sg Office Hours: 9:00 am - 5:00 pm (Monday to Friday) Closed on Saturday, Sunday and Public Holidays and if there is no APPORIATE answer than maybe the ball should start rolling in a different direction again???
Edited by airtime, 5 Sep 2010, 17:23.
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| bsriphet | 2 Sep 2010, 21:08 Post #11 |
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Well I'm not an MX guy as you both know but my point didn't communicate that well it seems. This sport in it's early stages is never about big money and having deep pockets or being a big guy with a fanclub. Start simple and forget about whoop sections and doubles. I think the big approach with authorities involved will fail just like Tuas while a grassroot approach with passion in the center is the only way and in the process being able to show others that it can be done with small resources and respect for nature and surroundings. So in my view there's no million dollar question, just shit loads of hard work.. 
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| airtime | 2 Sep 2010, 22:45 Post #12 |
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No Doubt about the hard work...it comes with the territory. but with most trail bikes if easy 2 disappear if a "nice chap in uniform" comes along! only for serious off road riders like u with off road bikes than might have a problem. juz the same as with the MX bikes..its kinda hard 2 "disappear" cos the vehicles r still around. i have been through the "grass root"" level before playing hide and seek with the authorities is not the way to go. anyway,if we do something here "unofficially" as locals we have a higher price 2 pay if things go wrong. but u r rite,passion and knowledge is wat the sport needs. some food for thought! :: Circuit@Tuas:: In late 2007, SMSA has entered into a tripartite agreement with the successful tenderer of a plot of State Land in Tuas and an event promoter to build and operate a motorcross and supermotard/cubprix track. With the completion of Circuit@Tuas, all motorcycle activities previously held in Kallang Car Park will be re-located there. guess,it muz take a lot of passion and knowledge 2 squeezed everything there at the expenses of safety! since i have been out of action for quite awhile....is the nusajaya track still use-able? if yes,we can work on getting something going there 1st for the time being. Edited by airtime, 2 Sep 2010, 22:56.
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| bsriphet | 2 Sep 2010, 23:00 Post #13 |
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Won't argue against your experience airtime and it's nearly weekend so now busy getting the bike ready! Lets ride! |
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| airtime | 2 Sep 2010, 23:17 Post #14 |
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yup,weekend is nearing..need 2 sort out my crank for my mtb. ya,m looking 4ward 2 getting on my bike as soon as possible.... lets hope dat the FMN/ASN can provide a answer soon or if any1 has heard from them and can post the info up here that would be great...
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| airtime | 5 Sep 2010, 11:01 Post #15 |
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since no1 has any news from the FMN. guess a fone call would be in order next week.
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| Duck of Death | 8 Sep 2010, 09:00 Post #16 |
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No need to go agitate the SMSA, we all know what the answer is going to be anyway, I suspect they have bigger fish to fry with the Changi develpoment? All we need is Larkin or Bandar for our next MX, Nusajaya is too exposed to the elements and is either baked solid or clay bath, i wouldnt suggest spending money on this place until some trees grow up around it ( 10yrs). If there are any riders interested in MX please do drop me a PM and depending on the amount of interest I will try and set a date for a club day at either Larkin or bandar |
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| airtime | 8 Sep 2010, 09:25 Post #17 |
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well,i rather hear from the horse's mouth! its surprising dat Mr Tan KNOWS that he is been mentioned here but still there is not response from him to this thread. i WILL go thru the proper channels than in SMSA and try 2 get a response. while having a race in larkin/bandar is a good stop gap measure(which i am totally supportive of this) the long term development of the sport still needs 2 have something planted locally. since i had already started the ball rolling with SMSA yesterday,i will juz follow thru and post their answer online when i get it!
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| rookie | 8 Sep 2010, 10:00 Post #18 |
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you DA MAN!!
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| airtime | 8 Sep 2010, 10:26 Post #19 |
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ok guys,i have followed up with the FMN this morning. i spoke to the G.M - Mr Raymond Cheong. there is some plans to get a piece of land for motocross use near to the changi race track. a application has been submitted already. now its just awaiting for the authorities approval. so that's some good news! we can all go riding mx soon!
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| Duck of Death | 8 Sep 2010, 11:11 Post #20 |
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Ok, just becareful and consider what you post online, the more you stir it up the more it puts everything backwards, I have no time or patience for that. But the reality for the moment is racing mx across the causeway, even if you had a track here we dont have the riders and the riders wont pay so it will suck for a few years to come yet. Thank goodness for X country and malaysia, I think we will be able to race larkin or bandar shortly, how many riders is there out there we could expect to turn up? Lets start a list, this will help me decide on spending my money on setting it up, i have put down 9 guaranteed riders to start off, anymore? No kok, just riding 1. Lazza 2. Mottomuppet 3. Duck of Death 4. Chris Sullivan 5. Chris Will 6. Andy 7. Brad 8. Gareth 9. Charlie |
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